How can I manage lifestyle creep with a spender spouse while aiming for early retirement?

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    Amanda

      How do you deal with lifestyle creep, especially when your spouse is on the spender mentality?

      I don’t want to take away his joy from our success, but at the same time I am more interested in early retirement.

      I’ve noticed the creep most in the little things that don’t break the budget but definitely add up over time like taking the tollway more often or grocery shopping without a structured meal plan

      #106623 Reply
      Michel

        Yes, little things add up, but also give joy. I have the same situation. We have same goals but a different up bringing.

        I always bring a drink from home for day trips he treats himself to coffee at timmies. I drive a 24 yr old car he has a new one.

        But we use his for long trips and holidays. Mine just goes to town. That’s just who I am! Celebrate your difference, he helps me enjoy things.

        I would never pay for a boat tour, he insisted, and I loved it. He balances my extreme frugal and reminds me to enjoy alittle.

        I pack the cooler, he asks if I want to stop for ice cream. Moderation and a little treat once in a while

        #106624 Reply
        Heidi

          You mentioned his spending is staying within the budget. If you are wanting to retire early you need to sit down with your husband. Find out if you two are on the same page with that idea.

          If so, then you may need to revamp your current budget in order to make that happen.

          Depending how far away that is, I would keep in mind a special treat now and then will help you both stay on budget until you reach that goal. Best wishes.

          #106625 Reply
          Johnson

            By definition…
            A budget is a noun and a verb
            Both something you set and what you actually do
            Bad or good
            That’s the budget
            Give each partner pr as needed
            Some fun money
            $50 a week
            $200 a month
            Less
            More
            Whatever it is
            It’s a line item in the budget
            Let it roll over
            Agree to honor the budget
            And or discuss larger purchases
            Make a snowball debt plan

            #106626 Reply
            Danielle

              Here’s the deal. My dad went to work the morning of November 5th 1983 and never made it home. He was killed in a work related accident.
              Tomorrow is not promised.

              Yes, having money for when we retire is what most people strive for. So did my dad.

              Being frugal shouldn’t and I personally don’t believe it’s meant for people to stop living.

              I buy Lego and a new set is budgeted into my monthly budget. If I don’t buy a new set; I normally find I want. Not need want.

              If your husband is contributing to your future why make an issue when he wants something.

              This is clearly my opinion but I’ve lived a LOT of life and seen a lot of unfair life events happened in the 42.9 years I’ve been alive. Tomorrow is not promised.

              It sucks but no one is taking money with them when they go.

              #106629 Reply
              Kim

                A budget will be freeing for you. Sit down and set one with him. When he spends it is meeting your long term goal AND keeping your peace of mind.

                No more need to worry or mentally police those activities.

                #106630 Reply
                Tommy

                  That’s they I stopped going out for dinner/ happy hours. I quit Starbucks 2 years ago also.

                  #106631 Reply
                  Kristel

                    Life is too short. Many in the FIRE community met their goal, retired, and were back to work eventually.

                    Not sure how early you are hoping to retire, but while important to save for it…. it’s also important to embrace life.

                    Yes, there are free and cheap ways to do that, but keep it in mind.

                    We did a discretionary budget for each of us. You can do cash or a savings account for each of you to auto transfer.

                    When it’s gone it’s gone. No judgement or accountability for what you do with it.

                    I am the type to save for something bigger that I want.

                    They like Starbucks and dinners out with friends.

                    #106632 Reply
                    Allison

                      Before dealing with the “lifestyle creep” it would help to get in the page about each other’s goals.

                      Then figure out on paper (or in excel) how to make both your dreams come true given the resources available (budget and timeline)

                      #106633 Reply
                      Cleo

                        I agree with the comments of others about being okay with little things as long as they are within budget, but it seems like the things you mentioned are the result of a lack of planning rather than things that bring him joy.

                        It may be helpful to kindly and graciously point it out to him. “I’ve noticed you are taking the tollways a lot, is that intentional?

                        We’ve spent X amount on it this month.” “I noticed that we spent X amount on groceries and then we threw some of it out when we cleaned the fridge.

                        To me this seems like money wasted.

                        I’m happy to help you meal plan and do the shopping with you if you want”.

                        Totally just ideas, adjust to your own communication style

                        #106634 Reply
                        Ashley

                          Do you have a monthly budget where you both discuss your long term goals and agree on discretionary spending for each of you?

                          It may be an issue where he needs to have his own personal monthly limit that is built into the budget but if he’s just swiping the debit card willy nilly throughout the month and not paying attention and it’s preventing y’all from hitting long term goals then you two need to discuss and agree on a good compromise limit.

                          #106635 Reply
                          Brenda

                            We have the same issues. I’m a saver, he’s a spender. I’ve had my suv for 7 years. He’s had 4 Trucks during that time. 3 utv’s, 3 cargo trailers & 3 travel trailers

                            #106636 Reply
                            Lynne

                              If you want to retire early. You do the meal plan, and you adjust your spending to achieve what you want. If you have already spoken to them numerous times, think of it as their allowance.

                              We pull 400 out every two weeks (paydays) he gets his allowance (as he calls it) and I get mine.

                              Mine usually is more for groceries. The allowances vary by pay (with what needs paid and such). Let them be happy

                              #106637 Reply
                              Margie

                                Put everything in the budget and allow for these things at a reasonable rate.

                                For meals, work out a flexible plan.

                                #106638 Reply
                                Annette

                                  Tough to dictate someone else’s behavior. Set long and short term goals together with criteria for each.

                                  Maybe if it’s in writing it will be easier to understand and follow.

                                  #106639 Reply
                                  Ann

                                    The bank account for spending money (debit card) stays the same and if the money is gone before end of month then you have information about your overspending

                                    #106640 Reply
                                    Regene

                                      Agree on an amount each month for no questions spending for each of you- put it in writing, in a written budget- hopefully over time he will see what that little takes away from.

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