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I’m looking for advice in regards to HR
I just got a verbal job offer by phone yesterday and they want me to come in today or tomorrow for the written offer and to get paperwork going for a background check.

The position is in an industry that requires work around the clock. So maybe non-HR folks working in such industries (healthcare, hotels, etc.) can chime in too.

I gave them my availability at the interview, basically no overnights, but I still wonder about how the protocol and legality of scheduling is for such companies.

And for the HR folks, what should the job offer spell out please?

Pay, duration (this is a contract role), should working hours, including holidays, be in there?

In terms of numbers, there is a possibility that this job can become permanent and I would love that, either in this position or another one in the company — when discussing pay rate in the verbal job offer yesterday (job post gave a range and they offered me the lowest number in that range), I questioned how they arrived at the pay offer, what considerations went into it, and the response was that their pay structure begins at the lowest number and if I continue pass this temporary period that the time I would have worked/accrued would be taken into consideration at the annual review when that number can change.

I can live with the current number but firmly believe that I have some pretty solid transferable skills that would greatly enhance the role.

In fact, I’m pretty confident that I can definitely work at the level above this position, basically management.

And I intend to still look for work since I am looking for a permanent position and it’s always better to have job options than just one where I’d have little to no say about anything, or worse none at all, which I don’t expect, but you never know.

If you’ve made it this far, thank you! I can use any pointers I can get, it has been a long work gap and I’m hoping/looking forward to getting this job and returning to work again!!

Even if it’s just contract for now.

[Caro]

What type of job? I work contract healthcare and I would not be able to block out my availability like that.

So definitely get everything in writing very explicitly so you all know everyone is on the same page.

as for negotiating salary, look up the afford anything podcast, Paula did a really good one on negotiations recently.

Highly recommend listening.

Yes, I have specific call and holiday pay noted, as well as overtime, weekend time in my policy and procedure manual.

[Erin]

Have you done market research for the salary? If it’s contract, are you responsible for your own taxes etc?

Salary employees receive a menu of benefits often not provided to contract employees.

I would negotiate for what you want now. Re-negotiatuon usually isn’t re-opened when a position goes permanent.

You could also ask as part of the negotiation to have the contract period shortened if you prove your value.

I wouldn’t do this now, but you could ask if contacts are negotiable if they decide to hire before the contract term is up.

It’ll give you insight as to why the position is contract… are they using it as an extension of the hiring process or are they waiting to confirm budget.

[Bunny]

Get as much detail on hours and availability in writing before you sign a contract. Anything not written defaults to company policy no matter what is promised.

[Teresa]

A contracted position means you will receive a 1099 vs a W2. Look up an independent contractor (IC) on the IRS website for IC rights.

[Nicole]

In the 24/7 manufacturing, (will be less starting next year with no overnights on weekends), production type people work shifts that are pretty standard, office people work 8-5 M-F or so.

In the 24/7 group homes, they are super flexible and schedule you for what you say are available hours when hired or change availability which may flex each week.

They usually require you to be available at least a weekend every other week or so but doesn’t mean you will be scheduled during the weekend unless that’s your availability.

Since it’s mostly college kids, they usually require availability during half the Christmas and spring breaks.

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